Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Twilight Promotion: Photo shoot for Vanity Fair on September 13 2008: Facts & Fiction




The photo shoot for Vanity Fair was done on September 13, 2008 by photographer Peggy Sirota at Ventura Farms in Thousand Oaks, California.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/12/twilight200812

Lets start with the facts: What we can actually SEE. The behind the scenes videos of this shoot.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMdjTN1d9rs




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwfuZfR3RMI



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN-6kbG0H5s




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSbMgqRs8IA



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZLjU8qlVZU




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-0auK9g-rQ

Speculation

Before we start speculating on this, we need to keep in mind that this photo-shoot had a theme that was oozing hotness. The clothes, the poses, the atmosphere and not to mention the directions the photographer gave.

It's not hard to imagine Rob and Kristen got a little caught up in this, as the compilation video below shows.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t45y8vq-Ko

But next to the appliance of common sense, there's also a few things to speculate on.

First off, a supposed quick kiss Rob plants on Kristen.





Updated on Oct 14 2009: It's a kiss. Proof:



And another one:
Smooch on Kristen's chest.

Source: http://i36.tinypic.com/169rof6.gif

Bigger:

Source: http://i33.tinypic.com/2ns9t9k.gif

And in the below video, around the 6.08-6.11 mark: does Kristen give Rob a quick peck back?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN-6kbG0H5s

When looking strictly objective it looks like she is making contact with him, but that doesn't mean she is doing it with her lips.

Still when using your imagination a bit, it could be a quick peck on the cheek, by photographers direction perhaps. Also, the way Kristen keeps leaning against Rob, her arms firmly around him, it certainly does not bother her to leave it linger on his chest.

Lets move on to the supposed "mounting" - comment.

In the video below, around the 5.00 mark, uncertified lip readers are convinced that Kristen asks Rob: "Do you think she would mind if I mounted it?" Then R's mouth drops to the ground and after he recovers they immediately start making plans for a rendevous. K seals the deal by winking at R. She then makes a head gesture that signifies the question "What about her?" Then the camera pulls back as if it is going to pan the area to see who she was referring to but instead settles back on them."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZLjU8qlVZU


Now the word mount can be made out, but the rest is more on the fuzzy side. Rob's facial expression is surprising though. He looks at her with a definite jaw drop. We can't perse make out an "OMG" from Rob, but the expression is telling.

Still, we can consider this a joke between two co-stars, even with Rob's reaction.

Then there's the intimate hand touching, as seen in a screenshot below:



Again, it's easy to conclude this is part of the intimacy of the shoot. Maybe Rob and Kristen got a bit carried away, it doesn't mean they were in love, or even just casually hooking up.

But, there is a significance in the way they behave around each other.

Take for instance the part in the video above (with the supposed mounting comment/plans) where Rob and Kristen have to hold hands and jump in the air.

Now, the assignment is simple enough: jump in the air whilst holding hands. But the photographer is NOT snapping pictures the entire time and yet they continue to hold hands. Also, Kristen is having trouble with her dress - keeping her ladies from falling out - and yet she doesn't not free her hand to pull the dress up with two hands. She keeps holding Rob's hand quite firmly in between shots.

Conclusions? We can say for sure that this photo shoot undeniably shows these two have great chemistry. And if we take into account that the photographer directed them to do certain poses, it is all very easily explained. But still, if I'd been Kristen Stewart's boyfriend at the time, I would have not been so pleased. Assuming her boyfriend at the time was the one NOT in that shoot with her, holding her in all kinds of provocative poses. Especially for someone who was not her boyfriend.


Feel free to add speculation in the comments :)

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Twilight Promotion: MTV Video Music Awards September 7 2008

The Twilight Cast attended the MTV Video Music Awards on Sept. 7th 2008.

This was not the most important of events in relation to Rob and Kristen but nonetheless an event they attended together, alongside co stars Cam Gigadet and Taylor Lautner.

At the event they made an appearance to announce Paramore to the stage for a performance.

On stage:


Some photos:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8YoDU6PTiM

There is not that much known about any speculation-worthy type of event in relation to Rob and Kristen. Though yet again, Kristen was there with her known boyfriend Michael Angarano.

Comparing between between R/K and K/MA does not prove to be of much help either, though there's always the subjective study of body language that people apply to build their theories.

Rob and Kristen:





Kristen and Michael:





(all photos are courtesy of http://everglowmedia.net --> give 'em props)


About the body-language:

Kristen and Michael are holding hands. But their bodies are leaning away frome ach other, whereas Rob and Kristen's bodies are closer in proximity and angled toward one another.

Hand holding looks very intimate and familiar but the distance between Kristen and Michael and the way he positions himself in front of Kristen in the one picture could be interpreted as him being the one in control in the relationship. It does not look very friendly at first sight.

Rob and Kristen do not position themselves in front of the other person, which could indicate they feel more like equals, giving their relantionship an obviously different dynamic than the one between Kristen and Michael. Naturally, Rob and Kristen are friends, and perhaps Rob - whose personality seems to be more open than Michael's - is the type of person to position his body toward the other person, because he feels comfortable doing so, whereas Michael is perhaps a more reserved character.

Kristen and Michael both look into the camera and appear not to interact, whereas Kristen and Rob seem to sharing a few moments


Based on body language there is not much to go on, and certainly no indication that Kristen was in love with Rob at this point. It just goes to show she is comfortable standing close to him but at the same time there's no way of knowing this influenced her feelings for Rob and her relationship with Michael. Studies of body language are far from infallible but they do prove to be an interesting sport.

Feel free to add your thoughts about the body language in above pictures, in the comments.

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Twilight Promotion: Comicon: July 24th 2008: Facts and Fiction on the Twilight panel and interviews



Lets start with the event itself. The facts of what went down.

The panel:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iw8Wl94ZtE



www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp2kvYoLYIU



www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0hPELi2eUk



www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdIeBF_MByA



www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIACX6woWdE



www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahTt-idJvHY



www.youtube.com/watch?v=fImxUDmV5GU



www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhbvqlxHSG8

Interview:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJzn_J9WIow


Borders Interview:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1PTxtubMjU





The speculation: Comic Con 2008 was an event that proved how big Twilight was rapidly getting. But at the time most people only has eyes for the actors that were going to portray Edward Cullen and Bella Swan.

People might have secretly wondered if these two people were not a couple or at the very least very flirty, but every one was so distracted with Rob's hair and smile that they probably did not see the longing looks between Kristen and Rob until after.

One particular thing that stood out is images like the photos above. Where it seems like Rob and Kristen only have eyes for each other. And not just in an obvious: "we're good friends/co stars" kind of way.

Plus Hickeys?

Rob:


Kristen:


But do these kinds of observations prove anything? Does this prove Stew and Ransom were in love and together?

Nope.

Of course it doesn't. And they weren't. Officially, Michael Angarano was Kristen's boyfriend during CC08. And after too.

Still... when you look at all the Comicon 2008 material, it does make you wonder.

Are Rob and Kristen just very good friends?

Well, they must have been.

Flirty they were too, no doubt.

But that's about it, right. Just flirty friends.

Dating? No.

Just having sex? Maybe.

Except that would Stew a cheater. Unless she and MA were on a "Ross-Rachel" type break.

Or....

Michael Angarano was simply not her boyfriend at the time.

Or ever.

You decide.



The videos themselves simply show what these two have always shown us. But there was not a name for it, until watching Comicon 08 and putting it in the context of what we know now.

We have a name for the longing looks and smiles now.

It's called the "Robsten Bubble."

And if you look at the 0.32 mark in this video, you can see Rob's always been in it.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUpUdsmS-uI



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Twilight Promotion: Photo shoot and coverage on Twilight set by Entertainment Weekly on June 6 2008: Facts and Fiction


















More photos


The inspiration for this shoot, which took place in a secluded area north of L.A., came from a romance-novel book jacket. Says Riedel, “It’s a hero whisking his woman in distress away. It was a moment of passion.” It was also a moment of slight filthiness for subjects Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart. “They were getting wet [and] standing in a pond. If they were divas, I don’t think we would’ve been able to pull that off.


Outtakes of the Year

This photo-shoot, like so many other joined appearances by Rob and Kristen shows us yet again how comfortable they are around each other.

This is starting to sound repetitive but it's the most obvious thing we can get from the photos. And it is nice to know and not surprising at all that Rob and Kristen are no divas.

There's no actual speculation on this photoshoot. No video footage to analyze. No rumors buzzing about this particular day. Just a bunch of beautiful photos for us to look at :)

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20211840,00.html">Added: Entertainment Weekly on the Twilight set

Disclaimer: we own nothing

Twilight Promotion: MTV Movie Awards June 1st 2008: Facts and Speculation



http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1588579/20080603/story.jhtml">About the show



http://www.youtube.com/v/m2Evwwlwu_A

The video speaks for itself.

Is there anything to speculate based on this appearance?

Well, it's more proof how well Kristen and Rob get along.

But does it also feed the theory that they fell in love during the audition or perhaps during filming?

We certainly know for sure Michael Angarano, Kristen's known boyfriend at the time joined her on the red carpet.



www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtTEbEmVBBs

Studying the video though, and especially the look exchanged between Rob and Kristen with Michael right there not only fuels the fire Kristen and Rob were already into each other back then, thus adding to the theory that they may have fallen in love straight away, but it also hints the a certain idea that Michael at that point was no longer her boyfriend and only joined her based on friendship, or even in the role of being part of her "supportive" entourage.

That, or we could simply deduce this is the look shared between two friends who are both very new to doing public events, thus looking for some comfort and support with one another.

Twilight Filming Feb - Apr 2008 Facts, Theories and Speculation



Let's start this off with some facts on what went down during the Filming of Twilight.

The best way? Some interviews with Kristen and Rob and the rest of the cast on set.


*Articles:
http://www.mtvasia.com/News/200804/16015718.html
http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1585986/story.jhtml

*Videos



www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYrLkZm3x0U

MTV Interview:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=S30zPUzIpbk

Behind the Scenes videos, to give a feel of what the dynamic was.



www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWWq44hgTic

More on the ON-Set dynamic:

http://www.sundaymercury.net/entertainment-news/celebrity-news/2008/12/20/twilight-director-talks-of-sexual-tension-between-robert-pattinson-and-kristen-stewart-66331-22519706/">Source

Most comments by other cast members are all about the great chemistry Rob and Kristen have on set, so I will not post all of them here, right now.

There is a quote by Rachelle Lefevre on Rob and Kristen about how they'd fight one moment and than be okay again the next, kind of like Bella and Edward in the fan video below.



www.youtube.com/watch?v=I27eaThpU4Q

Also, during Twilight filming, it was all about Bella and Edward and there was no outside focus on Robsten yet, so the cast probably did not specifically focus on Rob and Kristen.

Of course, there are interviews with Rob and Kristen during promotion, about what went down on set.

And what about the "infamous" marriage proposals:



www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxFa7D8kL74

Confirmed in a radio interview for a UK radio station. The interviewer asks Kristen about the proposals.

"Kristen if he meant it would you say yes" and Kristen stammers and laughs and says "he is right here". Then Rob pipes in that she would say yes"

Source.

Another fact:

Rob was there to celebrate Kristen's birthday:



And while she barely remembers the gifts she received, she does remember Rob's:

“Rob got me a guitar, uhm, which is beautiful. The guitar is, like, great. It got a lot of use on the film. Everybody was, sort of, musically inclined, or, at least, interested.”

However, aside from Rob’s gift, Kristen could barely remember the details of her other 18th birthday gifts, “Yeah, yeah, I think people got me some stuff…I don’t really remember. I think… I don’t really remember.”

(The questions are in German. The first questions is about celebrating her 18th and if she received any cool gifts)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCDV6wSzu9s


This is a great compilation of what happened during the filming of Twilight

The facts on the dynamic between Rob and Kristen during the filming of Twilight show they get along well.

This leads to some speculation on what went down on (and off) set during Twilight filming.

This is from "Margaret" a poster on Ted's the Awful Truth Blog on Saturday August 1st.

She claims to know someone about Twilight filming.

Post 671: margaret Sat, Aug 1, 2009, 7:47 AM
angelsslave-LOL poor MA! But do we know anything about the living together??? I haven't heard it but has anyone else had?? But I know somethings about the Twilight filming and from what I hear K/MA fought a lot. And didn't sleep in the same room...maybe they were fighting or maybe it was because she was 17? I don't know.


Post: margaret Sat, Aug 1, 2009, 10:38 AM
I guess I should also post this here so people can read..."sheenspr-You asked for what I know about the Twilight set so here it goes...You probably have heard this all by now...Ok umm...1) MA never planned on going no the set or the Oregon and Washington with Kristen as he hasn't done that in the past, but CH/NR told him about R/K 2) R/K just followed each other every where...they went to lunch together they went on set together they left set together...that is if both of them finished on time. Kristen had more filming then Rob of course but some days Rob would wait for her to finish. 3) NR/K were friends...Nikki was apparently kinda condescending to Kristen but she wasn't mean to her. 4) During the Twilight kissing scene, R/K didn't stop kissing right away...only of a few secs though...5) MA and Kristen fought a lot and MA wasn't there as much as people think he was. He wasn't there for her 18th Bday and Rob was the one that sat next to Kristen."

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/the_awful_truth/b137055_truth_lies_ted_robsten_screwing_with.html">
Source


This "Margaret" also mentioned something else about the ON SET dynamics:
"According to her, during twilight filming, Kristen and Rob sort of gotten really close and that Rob helped her cope with her problems with MA. She said they were on/off just like Kristen and MA were on/off during that time. She also said that there were sleep overs( Rob in Kris's room),she believed they didn't do anything other than talk as Kris was just 17 at that time"

(No credited source, she probably also mentioned this at the Awful Truth comments, but the specific source of where she said this has not been found)

The above leads to speculation about the dynamic of Rob and Kristen's relationship during filming of Twilight.

The above source supports the theory that Rob and Kristen got close on set and that their love might have blossomed there but since MA was still in the picture, it's unlikely they were dating already and were just good friends.

Another theory could be that they were on/off, since Michael was missing in action for the important event that was Kristen's birthday, hinting that Kristen and MA were not that serious.

We'll leave the on set marriage proposals for what they are at the moment, since they'll get a separate break-down later on.

Some interesting BTS shots, when there was NO filming.








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Twilight Filming Preparations (early 2008) - Facts, Theories and Speculation

Before filming for Twilight started in February 2008, Kristen and Rob had to prepare for their parts and try and discover how to express the Edward/Bella chemistry on screen.

Facts about their prepping:

- To prepare for the role, Robert Pattinson did more than just stay out of the sun. He wrote journal entries as Edward and shut himself off from his friends and family. ''I wanted to feel his isolation,'' he says

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20211840_2,00.html">Source

- They watched Last Tango in Paris together and tried to base the E/B relationship on that. Other inspirations came from the book "Doomed Love" by Virgil, that Rob gave Kristen.

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1585986/story.jhtml">Source

- They also went over the script together:

"Kristen: We sat around my dining room table for, like, two entire nights with the script. Robert: Two nights? It was more than two nights.
Kristen: Oh yeah, it was actually all of pre-production. But there was two nights that were actually, like, productive.
"

http://www.mtvasia.com/News/200804/16015718.html">Source


This is something Rob had to say about developing their chemistry:

"How did you work on developing the sexual tension that exists between your characters?

Robert Pattinson: I used to sometimes just run into Kristen’s bedroom naked! [laughs] To keep shocking her! But seriously, it’s funny because all the romantic scenes are all pivotal moments in the movie… but I’m never really sure how to answer that question. It was worrying, though, because we were both wearing contact lenses and so much of it is to do with visual eye contact. So, we both had these kind of masks over our eyeballs, and so it was really worrying the whole time that there wouldn’t be anything between us. It was lucky that there was, I guess."

Source

The facts speak for themselves. It is clear Kristen and Rob wanted to capture the essence of the romance between their characters Bella Swan and Edward Cullen and had their own way of prepping to get the chemistry just right.

But what about the speculation and theories about the mentioned facts in this post?

- They watched Last Tango in Paris together.
Not quite the PG-13 movie, obviously.

Not to mention the "many productive" nights they had, per Robert Pattinson's words.

This is food for speculation, naturally.

But there is no credited speculation on this time frame, or rather there is plenty uncredited speculation about this time on Ted's Awful Truth at the comments section on several of his blogs.

The basic outlines of the theorizing on this particular time exists of the fact it's significant that Kristen and Rob watched Last Tango in Paris together, a sexy film, when Kristen had a BF (Michael Angarano). It seems impossible the atmosphere of the film did not rub off on the two.

Plus, the productive nights. Speculation gladly reads into these words, as if to say. "Productive" equals sex. Not to mention the actual wording of "many nights." Meaning the two obviously spend many nights together to try and creat the chemistry they needed to bring to the big screen.

The basic theory/speculation: Kristen and Rob were either dating (perhaps casually) around this time or definitely falling for each other. The fact they spend so much time together leads to believe they did more than prepare for filming based on being professional alone. Or maybe they prepared a little too well. Either way, they did like each other enough (friends and/or romantically) to spend this much time together to get the chemistry right, when obviously alot of the chemistry came quite natural already.